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outlaw of the airwaves bringing you the

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specific mystic amazing truth behind

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many of the conspiracies and alternative

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fringe developments that our culture

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tends to overlook but back to our guests

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one of the best guys I've ever met and

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about something that is so important and

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historically and kind of a secret that's

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checked out our research project kind of

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a fun little thing we do on the side

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which is turning out to be pretty big

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a video off of YouTube in your car

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jumping on a plane wherever you are it

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watching the same movies the same

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against the forces that you may not see

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glorification let's move on to what's

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important here which is Pearl Harbor Day

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and the remembrance of Pearl Harbor Day

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this is a very important day not only

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whole this was a strategic attack that

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having connections to the United States

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in a display that is record-breaking

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historically and we are here to discuss

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the things that just don't quite pass

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the smell test not detracting from or

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taking away from the remembrance the

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importance of our veterans or any of the

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issues that we all hold so clear and

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the back recesses of the mind to the

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things that make you go hmm why did that

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happen her why was this not spoken of

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protectorates attacked at the same time

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human life is really what's important

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territory which would be considered

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mainland at this point or our own

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property never has this happened before

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since the Redcoats came storming and he

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sent them back with their tail between

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situation is not really what we're here

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to discuss we're more here to discuss

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the events that took place on that day

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in we have my very special very best

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friend great guy will Hoffman a pastor a

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all-around good guy here to discuss it

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with this soap we'll welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast I'm doing doing

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yeah things things are great I'm not as

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cold here as it is where you're at but

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we uh we just had a little bit of snow

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there's there's a lot going on it's this

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is kind of in remembrance of Pearl

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Harbor day and we've only lightly spoken

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about just the idea of having a podcast

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about this so this is all new to both of

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us but we are going to discuss some

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events that like pay respects all the

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military and all that in addition we'll

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go into why some names are being

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excluded and things of that nature but

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yeah well you you have a very unique

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history at least from a family

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standpoint about some possibilities that

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may have happened at Pearl Harbor that

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it's a coincidental thing there's some

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coincidences as there oftentimes are

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with these major monumental historic

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events that take place in the US history

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and this is one of those like a much

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like 9/11 and the message that it

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conveyed but could you tell us a little

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bit about that well yeah well my my

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grandfather was in World War two and he

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was a he was a pilot he was a medical

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pilot and he he never really talked

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about the war I mean this this was the

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only story I actually heard come from

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his lips and it was kind of in the later

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stages of his life he came to Missouri

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for to visit the family and just I

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didn't know where he liked because we

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kind of asked him about you know where

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he was that on the day prologue or

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happened and he just goes into the story

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and Mike my grandfather at the time he

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was stationed in California and they

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were told that if anything was to ever

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happen in Hawaii that there would be the

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first responders again you know a lot of

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his career he flew medical planes so

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they would want to go over and you know

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being being on the airbase wherever was

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about for sure which airbase they were

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at at the time I know they were close to

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a beach and they always tried to ask

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their commanding officer if they could

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go to the beach for the day and there

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got to be on on station well that's

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commanding officer and said hey can we

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go to the beach and he just said yes sir

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didn't think anything about it they just

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thought this was their time to go to the

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beach go play volleyball go play in the

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sand you know do all that stuff and

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about I can't remember what time you

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said it was but they there was a radio

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somebody had a radio on the beach and

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the reports that the attack was taking

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place and so they they rushed back to

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base started getting their planes ready

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didn't even check in they just went

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straight to their plane started getting

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ready and they remaining officer came

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out and told him to stand down and they

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basically sit there and you know kind of

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was asking why why are you having us

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stand down

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we're the first line and they were just

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told stand down

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you'll get the order to go when we tell

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you to go and they waited on base they

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wooded next to their planes for the rest

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of day until they were told to go and

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this is what after the attack already

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happened it was you know there's over it

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was done and then they were told okay

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now you can go then they really were the

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first ones that flew over and saw all

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the destruction and when my grandfather

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always said was you know during this

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time when we were talking about it

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because we're just being kind of blown

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away by this his whole thing was I never

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understood why they wouldn't let us go

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why they wouldn't let us go and try to

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save lives we were the first line of you

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know of support for help and we were

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sitting by airplanes and it really just

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it's trepang there with him as me and my

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mother are sitting there listening to

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this we're just like you know what and

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he just he was told to stand down he he

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couldn't go save lives

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and it was you know it was hard for

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it's one of the things that kept them

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off at night it was one of the things

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that reason why he didn't talk about his

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time in the war and it really affected

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them and I mean that could cause some

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serious PTSD oh he he did he did suffer

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from that you know we again I you know

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the stories I heard from my mom you know

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the the night terrors that he would have

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even even when Saving Private Ryan came

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out you know he was he was taken to the

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premiere of that he got one of those

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premiere tickets because he was a

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serviceman during World War two and even

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that set set him off for a few months of

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reliving this stuff in his dreams he saw

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a lot of stuff happened he was you know

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his plane was fire back you know shot at

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and yeah it really it really affected

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him to the point where he didn't he

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didn't tell her many stories my mom can

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only recount you know two or three

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stories that he would ever sit down and

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tell and yeah the Pearl Harbor story was

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was one of them seriously not to be

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allowed to you know go and being told to

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stand down and I think it's important to

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mention that we'll get we'll get to this

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bit it's important to mention that this

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was afterwards so after the attack had

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already taken place and literally being

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the first line of support or defense

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being young man and and not really

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thinking anything about your orders

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because you're just there to do that

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there's you know just not be you know

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them being allowed to go to the beach

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words anyway there's a lot of questions

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when he was selling

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a story I didn't want to I really didn't

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want to ask me questions cuz you know my

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grandfather was and he's passed away but

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he would always tell us stories he would

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always come you know I you know he's one

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of those snowbirds he lived in Arizona

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he would come up to Missouri you know

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during the summer but spent most his

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time in Arizona and you know he would

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always tell his stories that was kind of

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the thing he would sit around the

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kitchen table he just saw stories about

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his life about everything but never that

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part of his life so I think I don't want

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to ask a lot of questions just because I

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honestly I didn't know when he would

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shut down you know he you know sometimes

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when he just wouldn't want to talk about

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something he would just shut down so you

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know when I'm listening to this and you

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know I was I was I believe a teenager at

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the time you know I'm just I'm kind of

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shocked at hearing this stuff thinking

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you know and even even he said you know

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I remember him saying very very clearly

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that when they were told they could go

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to the beach his first thought was well

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that's weird

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I'm gonna do it because you know I want

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to go I want to go to the beach you know

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I want to you know hang out and have fun

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and you know their first thought was

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nothing's gonna happen

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but that was always one of those things

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was it was just weird that day was weird

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that day on the base was weird when he

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woke up just how things were going and

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then yeah getting permission to do

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something that they never could really

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do just getting that permission was

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again he would just say it was strange

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it was weird but didn't think much about

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it until until after the fact and then

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you know by after the fact he was

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constantly you know

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the war that's what got us in and you

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didn't really think much about it until

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after he came oh wow

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so you mentioned you'd always tell

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stories and that he really never talked

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about this part of his life you hearing

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this as a teenager yeah you know you

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this part about them being teenagers

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yeah they want to go to the beach

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have fun they said it was a weird day is

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is there any possibility after the fact

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and in that you know that it was after

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in his life

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could this be considered possibly like

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when did he die after all of these

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stories could have possibly been a

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deathbed confession well I mean what I

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said was later on in his life I mean he

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still he still lived oh man he you know

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this was he probably lived another I

347
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you know maybe even a little bit longer

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but it was just one of those moments

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where you asked somebody a story and

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you're expecting not to get an answer

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because again he you know when when he

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would come you know to the farm house

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and he tell stories I mean I knew I knew

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pretty much every aspect of his wife his

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days of being a a plane mechanic after

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the war his time being a TV repairman

357
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you know all these other jobs that he

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had working on the farm everything he

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would talk all about that it just seemed

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to be like one of those times where you

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ask them the right question on the right

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day and he just he told you this story

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and that that question and I remember

364
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you know my mom asked the question you

365
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know where were you during Pearl Harbor

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you're kind of thinking you know that

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was just that was a time he you know

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well the time that got us into the war

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but God

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kind of before you know might be an

371
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easier question for him to answer and he

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just tells us this incredible story so I

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don't necessarily think it was just a

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deathbed confession I I think it was

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just that that right question the right

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time and he just opened up and then it

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and it was we interesting because as

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soon as he was done telling the story

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he's just he was done it was like a

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light switch went off and Tory coming

381
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over no no no question ah yeah

382
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no questions afterwards probably because

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it was like I told you what I told you

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type thing yeah yeah

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it was that was kind of feeling was like

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this is this is the one one story you'll

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get that time and yeah it was it was it

388
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made you think really I I remember the

389
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ride home you know me and my mom are

390
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sitting there just kind of going what

391
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just happened what did he just tell us

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because that was you know I and of all

393
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the things I could say about my

394
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grandfather you know I loved him he was

395
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a great guy he never never lied that was

396
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one of the things that he stood strongly

397
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with was he and he was very blunt he

398
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would tell you to your face about things

399
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you know he didn't like something he

400
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would tell you if you liked it he would

401
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tell you you know he wanted hate if he

402
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thought you should do something he would

403
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he would tell you blunt

404
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honest truth so this is the reason I I

405
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never questioned his judgment on the

406
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story that's why I've never questioned I

407
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got a lot of other questions not for him

408
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by when he told me that story there was

409
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never any reason he should I should

410
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everything he was telling me a lie right

411
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that makes perfect sense I mean if he

412
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had a good track record and

413
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absolutely sincere open confessions it's

414
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it's neat that you said that if you ask

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him the right question at the right day

416
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and he would just help this I mean a

417
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amazing story so it wasn't a deathbed

418
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confession that's kind of like you know

419
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,140
like he it was more of it you know it

420
00:22:04,860 --> 00:22:03,760
wasn't like a realization it was more of

421
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a truth in his mind

422
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and you mentioned that he he said that I

423
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remember that and I could be out of

424
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place here that there there was reports

425
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that the because they went to the beach

426
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or something associated possibly with

427
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going to the beach that the weapons were

428
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actually locked down oh okay so that's a

429
00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:40,180
whole nother story so I was exactly in

430
00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:43,870
college and one of my history professors

431
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her I believe was her uncle's were

432
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stationed at Pearl Harbor during the

433
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attack so and again this coincides with

434
00:23:00,690 --> 00:22:57,430
like the things of my grandpa was

435
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:00,700
telling me right but so her her her

436
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:02,710
uncle's were stationed at Pearl Harbor

437
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:05,260
was attacking Pearl Harbor and they they

438
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:09,850
actually did survive but again they they

439
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:12,780
expressed how weird it was that day and

440
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:15,490
their habit there was issues with the

441
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shipping lanes of how the boats were

442
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stacked in in the harbor which is wrong

443
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:25,270
but one of the one of the key things is

444
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that they had an inspection that weekend

445
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which never happened on the weekend it

446
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just it just didn't happen you know the

447
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weekend was a time was you know people

448
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went home so you had these these people

449
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and and again at the time a lot of

450
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people work on the church they had

451
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Church on one of the ships I forget and

452
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I remember that one of the reasons he he

453
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survived my teachers on

454
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was because if he forgot something in

455
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his bunk I think he forgot his Bible or

456
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something like that so he actually went

457
00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:04,150
back to response to grab the Bible and

458
00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:07,390
then the attack happened well what is

459
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the weather one of the things you got to

460
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:12,070
do during the inspection is you have to

461
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lock down the ammunition you have to

462
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lock down the guns everything has to

463
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look [\h__\h] and span so when that time

464
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happened and she's explaining this in a

465
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classroom she has the the blackboard

466
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she's drawing us a diagram of what the

467
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hub would look like and she said you

468
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know when the attack started happening

469
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and they started going to the guns they

470
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couldn't find the keys the keys were

471
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good away and they can get to the ammo

472
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they can get to the guns because

473
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everything was on lockdown for this

474
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disliked inspection that they had so

475
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that was that was a big reason why they

476
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didn't have a lot of office to shoot at

477
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the at the Japanese planes was because

478
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they they couldn't operate the guns and

479
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it all all of this like everything

480
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happened you know if you believe in

481
00:25:25,220 --> 00:25:21,790
coincidences everything happened

482
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perfectly where it was just setup that

483
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:27,520
you know the Japanese just picked the

484
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right time the right day to bomb Pearl

485
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Harbor so realistically you look at it

486
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and you go man this deal where there's

487
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smoke there's fire and everything was

488
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just weird that day you know and I you

489
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,360
know when you jump into the conspiracy

490
00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:54,880
theory realm and you know again you'll

491
00:25:59,580 --> 00:25:56,500
you're wanting to be respectful you're

492
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wanting to remember what happened

493
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remember those who lost their lives and

494
00:26:10,009 --> 00:26:05,020
stuff but you just sit there and you add

495
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either it was just the perfect scenario

496
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for the enemy or there was something

497
00:26:27,659 --> 00:26:24,519
else at play and yeah I it's all though

498
00:26:33,149 --> 00:26:27,669
to say that my grandfather said is it

499
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was strange it's it's super strange to

500
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have do you know like that so much going

501
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on and so much at play and I mean there

502
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:43,419
has to be some smoke to that

503
00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:48,159
conspiratorial fire if you know there's

504
00:26:53,789 --> 00:26:51,190
there's other possibilities that it

505
00:26:57,690 --> 00:26:53,799
could be a spy or something but more

506
00:26:59,970 --> 00:26:57,700
likely in my eyes do you know if you

507
00:27:01,560 --> 00:26:59,980
were your history teacher knew how long

508
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,570
did they actually have to stand down

509
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:04,240
after the events took place do you

510
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:08,559
remember how long the lockdown was all I

511
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:11,470
would say was doing hours and I mean the

512
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people that were there I know that you

513
00:27:20,419 --> 00:27:16,119
know as she told us that they were very

514
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:20,429
active on trying to survive trying to

515
00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:25,690
fight back but I know what that father

516
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:28,419
said it was just hours he'd ever he

517
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:32,200
never really gave me timeframe but he

518
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:35,350
just said by the time they got you know

519
00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:36,610
because you got to go through all that

520
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,220
check all those checks and that's what

521
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:41,279
they were actually doing when they were

522
00:27:47,879 --> 00:27:44,559
told to stand down was preparing the

523
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:47,889
plane going through the chats so they

524
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:49,360
had a read go through all those checks

525
00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:52,090
again they had to you know make sure the

526
00:27:59,340 --> 00:27:54,340
planes were ready to go and then take

527
00:28:01,470 --> 00:27:59,350
off and you know he said I I'm thinking

528
00:28:04,529 --> 00:28:01,480
and again this is just trying to

529
00:28:06,629 --> 00:28:04,539
remember from years ago that it was

530
00:28:11,509 --> 00:28:06,639
already starting to you know be evening

531
00:28:14,249 --> 00:28:11,519
time by the time they got over there and

532
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,259
so you know from the morning that had

533
00:28:18,109 --> 00:28:17,440
happened to you know mid afternoon into

534
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:18,119
evening

535
00:28:29,230 --> 00:28:25,840
man and to be to be there and not be

536
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:29,240
able to do anything for hours if even

537
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,750
even an hour that it would have to be so

538
00:28:39,070 --> 00:28:34,880
consuming just because you're just so

539
00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:39,080
riled up and ready to go and I guess on

540
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:40,760
the other hand they may have not known

541
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:42,410
if they were coming back for another hit

542
00:28:45,970 --> 00:28:44,210
and you don't want to be kind of caught

543
00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:45,980
with your pants down right like loading

544
00:28:52,810 --> 00:28:49,640
up and doing all that but it's

545
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:52,820
interesting that it it it seemed to have

546
00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:55,250
hit so quickly they really didn't see it

547
00:29:00,039 --> 00:28:56,150
coming in yet

548
00:29:01,630 --> 00:29:00,049
I don't know it's it's got an

549
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:01,640
interesting history and many other

550
00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:05,200
countries were also decimated or areas

551
00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:09,100
the Philippines and others and

552
00:29:15,789 --> 00:29:11,960
historically we really only hear about

553
00:29:18,460 --> 00:29:15,799
and are taught in our history lessons at

554
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:18,470
school elementary schools and such that

555
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:22,220
it was just Pearl Harbor they leave the

556
00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:24,110
other stuff out usually unless you're in

557
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:26,750
a very intense historical discussion

558
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:30,230
pulling in files and records of you know

559
00:29:35,289 --> 00:29:32,150
dates and times that are sporadic but

560
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:35,299
the loss of life just if you account for

561
00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:37,490
at all which took place all on the same

562
00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:40,030
day it was like a multi hit three places

563
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:45,350
Guam I believe as well so there were big

564
00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:53,330
time loss of life big time yeah and do

565
00:29:58,090 --> 00:29:55,100
you know to be hit that hard and not be

566
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:58,100
able you know I guess it was a strange

567
00:30:03,730 --> 00:30:01,760
attack because it pretty much did

568
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:03,740
exactly what it was supposed to do

569
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:08,000
however there's a conspiratorial aspect

570
00:30:12,820 --> 00:30:10,040
of this that does seem like there's some

571
00:30:15,490 --> 00:30:12,830
smoke and mirrors involved not only how

572
00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:15,500
its viewed historically how it

573
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:18,140
functioned as an actual like retaliation

574
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:20,690
when it came to retaliation how it there

575
00:30:25,419 --> 00:30:22,370
was a mechanical shutdown either on

576
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:25,429
purpose or you know if all the

577
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:26,990
synchronicities in the universe were

578
00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:29,450
against everybody that day on you know

579
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:31,340
being able to go to the beach having

580
00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:33,950
their guns lockdown in certain sectors

581
00:30:40,390 --> 00:30:36,020
all kinds of stuff just basically hands

582
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:40,400
tied pants down is it possible that the

583
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:42,770
Japanese just knew about this I mean

584
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:47,090
what's the coincidence in your eyes man

585
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:49,850
you know I've looked into this for years

586
00:30:54,190 --> 00:30:51,770
and I mean I've looked at it every

587
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:54,200
aspect I looked at the official records

588
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,650
I've looked at you know the the stories

589
00:31:01,120 --> 00:30:59,360
that were told to me by people that

590
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:01,130
there are people that heard it from

591
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:03,500
people that were there you know from my

592
00:31:10,810 --> 00:31:06,020
grandfather who was you know just

593
00:31:12,970 --> 00:31:10,820
devastated when you know III do remember

594
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:12,980
and I want to say this that when they

595
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:18,050
were told Hey go one is my grandfather

596
00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:20,150
didn't say this but another guy in the

597
00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:23,030
squadron said why it's over you know

598
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:25,700
just just in that aspect of it you know

599
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:26,870
apparently they were listening to

600
00:31:33,790 --> 00:31:30,710
reports and was just like you know it's

601
00:31:35,890 --> 00:31:33,800
done why are we going now while you know

602
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:35,900
and knowing that there were survivors

603
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:38,930
and stuff like that you know that was it

604
00:31:43,330 --> 00:31:41,330
was more the mentality of we could have

605
00:31:46,660 --> 00:31:43,340
saved more people if we would wrap when

606
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:46,670
we were supposed to right but looking at

607
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:49,790
you know looking at all the records you

608
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:51,920
know and again trying to be careful not

609
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:55,910
to you know you know hurt the memory of

610
00:32:00,460 --> 00:31:58,490
those who served during that time and

611
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:00,470
who lost their life during that time

612
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:04,910
because it was devastating but just

613
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:08,210
knowing that all this stuff adding up

614
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:10,610
knowing that there were spies who were

615
00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:14,090
calling you know trying to get reports

616
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:16,100
what is it what is the harbor look like

617
00:32:21,970 --> 00:32:18,890
and stuff like that trying to get trying

618
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:21,980
to get like an idea of how to attack

619
00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:23,570
this thing you know we know that there

620
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:25,400
were spies doing this we know that there

621
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:28,730
were people calling calling uh you know

622
00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:32,210
Japanese American people that's like we

623
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:34,070
innocence as Americans had a

624
00:32:38,110 --> 00:32:35,230
concentration camp for

625
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:38,120
japanese-americans we didn't know

626
00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:40,130
exactly who we could trust and I'm not

627
00:32:47,290 --> 00:32:41,780
saying that was right or wrong but

628
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:47,300
that's just that's just fact but we know

629
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:47,960
that they

630
00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:49,940
they were looking at this they would

631
00:32:54,129 --> 00:32:52,100
they were doing their their due

632
00:32:57,159 --> 00:32:54,139
diligence they were studying the area

633
00:33:01,389 --> 00:32:57,169
they were studying the situation ready

634
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:01,399
for waiting for that stuff and yeah

635
00:33:06,629 --> 00:33:03,049
stuff that these days would be

636
00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:06,639
considered not politically correct oh

637
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:11,299
yeah and you know so they were doing

638
00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:14,690
their stuff but you also have to

639
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:16,820
remember that the United States was and

640
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:18,590
you know we were going through a

641
00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:20,990
depression we're going through our times

642
00:33:28,869 --> 00:33:24,230
yeah it was it was it was this or we're

643
00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:28,879
done yeah it was you know and they

644
00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:31,190
always say what's the best way to get

645
00:33:39,789 --> 00:33:33,830
you know America back on track well you

646
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:39,799
have a war and it just seemed to be the

647
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,320
thing that restarted our economy you

648
00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:44,960
started you know the steel industry all

649
00:33:52,659 --> 00:33:49,340
of this stuff and you gotta you do have

650
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:52,669
to ask yourself what the high reppin up

651
00:33:59,379 --> 00:33:56,210
in our government won this to happen

652
00:34:05,049 --> 00:33:59,389
one of us to be attacked because I mean

653
00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:05,059
we at the time we we took a stand in

654
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:07,460
saying that no we were with England but

655
00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:11,030
even when Winston Churchill asked us to

656
00:34:17,859 --> 00:34:15,409
join we said no oh you know we were kind

657
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:17,869
of like well hell we'll give you you

658
00:34:21,579 --> 00:34:19,460
know we'll give you weapons we'll do all

659
00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:21,589
this stuff but this happened really

660
00:34:26,319 --> 00:34:23,419
touched us and we don't we don't want to

661
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:26,329
do this and then as soon as it touches

662
00:34:37,289 --> 00:34:33,200
eyes we were in hmm it's it's definitely

663
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:37,299
a it's definitely a thing to study and

664
00:34:42,849 --> 00:34:41,690
the thing to look at but again if you're

665
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:42,859
going to study and you're going to look

666
00:34:47,609 --> 00:34:44,510
at it you need to come from it from all

667
00:34:52,539 --> 00:34:50,139
definitely and you mentioned that he was

668
00:34:54,490 --> 00:34:52,549
kind of a snowbird and you like when you

669
00:34:57,309 --> 00:34:54,500
did see him and you were a teenager and

670
00:34:59,950 --> 00:34:57,319
you were hearing these stories this had

671
00:35:01,330 --> 00:34:59,960
to be a pretty magical experience being

672
00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:01,340
told these

673
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:05,270
type of things hearing other people give

674
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:08,720
confirmation of the same well they you

675
00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:12,140
know as I say the history is written by

676
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:17,060
the victors and when you start to look

677
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:19,160
into history and I mean I love it I love

678
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:22,220
American history I love I really like

679
00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:24,050
early American history you know the

680
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:27,740
Revolutionary Wars stuff like that but

681
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:29,270
when you look at this stuff when you

682
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:33,650
actually dig into like the actual facts

683
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:38,450
and again you know I think the best way

684
00:35:43,570 --> 00:35:42,050
to come at any argument is not just

685
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:43,580
knowing one side you have to know all

686
00:35:50,890 --> 00:35:48,110
the sides and you just look into it and

687
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:50,900
you read the things that you may not

688
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:53,690
even agree with but read those things so

689
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:56,480
that you know what the other side was

690
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:00,320
and you'll find a lot of times that the

691
00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:05,510
truth lies in the middle so you know

692
00:36:10,090 --> 00:36:07,790
yeah when it comes to wait what I

693
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:10,100
learned in you know elementary school

694
00:36:19,150 --> 00:36:16,030
middle school high school you know again

695
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:19,160
you know we were always told Christopher

696
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:23,030
Columbus came to America hey and we know

697
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:26,810
now that that's not true you know he

698
00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:29,810
didn't found it the history is stating

699
00:36:37,330 --> 00:36:31,820
more so that the Vikings were here

700
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:37,340
before he was and you sit them you say

701
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:42,850
when we find more evidence when we find

702
00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:48,950
more truth we can build a better reality

703
00:36:56,860 --> 00:36:53,750
of what history was and I think even

704
00:37:01,680 --> 00:36:56,870
with you know even with Pearl Harbor and

705
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:01,690
I mean you can even look at more more

706
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:05,480
recent events in our in our country and

707
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:08,930
in our world not everything is reported

708
00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:12,310
and especially with our media today

709
00:37:19,260 --> 00:37:13,990
you're all are going to get

710
00:37:22,339 --> 00:37:19,270
one side so you have to you have to

711
00:37:24,839 --> 00:37:22,349
study you have to do your own research

712
00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:24,849
you have to ask questions you know what

713
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:26,980
when we asked my grandfather this

714
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:31,570
question I didn't know I the answer for

715
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:33,880
the bed mothers in California and that

716
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:37,990
was it but he goes and he tells us the

717
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,010
entire day and again from from the

718
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:43,839
stories I know what my grandfather went

719
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:47,410
and did in World War two this was the

720
00:38:01,560 --> 00:37:58,109
and yeah it's I love history

721
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:01,570
and I love discovering new things about

722
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:07,390
history yeah it's pretty cool that you

723
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:10,570
know this has given you a totally

724
00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:15,490
different idea of you know history and

725
00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:17,980
how it's written to us and how things

726
00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:19,720
have changed you know how something that

727
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:21,880
now would be political almost martial

728
00:38:26,089 --> 00:38:23,380
law at this point to be able to get away

729
00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:26,099
with doing something like that causing a

730
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:29,830
concentration camp for a specific you

731
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:33,490
know gender or race and so things have

732
00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:36,430
changed and who discovered America with

733
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:39,460
Christopher Columbus it's like it's not

734
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:41,770
so much who found it it was most almost

735
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:44,170
like most recently plundered being able

736
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:46,570
to have the military might to plant a

737
00:38:55,859 --> 00:38:48,970
flag in the ground of another and that's

738
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:55,869
that part sorta hasn't changed yeah you

739
00:39:01,980 --> 00:38:58,839
know knowing knowing how proudly my

740
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:01,990
grandfather served in knowing how how

741
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:05,950
the rest of my family had served you

742
00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:08,890
know I've had you know other family

743
00:39:14,579 --> 00:39:12,040
members that have served and I did I did

744
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:14,589
actually have the pleasure to preside

745
00:39:22,290 --> 00:39:18,660
over my grandfather's military funeral

746
00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:22,300
which was very important to me in my

747
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:23,670
life

748
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:26,500
the be standing in front of my family

749
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:30,250
and you know and proceeding over you

750
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:32,260
know I have done many funerals in my day

751
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:38,560
you know as pastor but just doing doing

752
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:41,050
this one and being able to look at my

753
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:45,369
family and say you know out of all the

754
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:48,190
things you know my grandfather loved his

755
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:51,760
family I stood up for his family he was

756
00:40:01,140 --> 00:39:56,230
a truthful man and he was an honorable

757
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:01,150
man and knowing that these events Pearl

758
00:40:07,859 --> 00:40:04,960
Harbor other you know stories that I've

759
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:07,869
heard secondhand from my my aunt's and

760
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:12,130
my uncles of him in the war was this was

761
00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:16,900
the thing that the you know this was

762
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:19,740
what really wanted him to serve more

763
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:22,900
this was the thing that drove him you

764
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:24,910
know he had a rough airplane she loved

765
00:40:37,290 --> 00:40:28,540
flying he went on to work for a

766
00:40:41,579 --> 00:40:37,300
McDonnell Douglas and they drove his

767
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:41,589
life a very dark time in his life when

768
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:44,040
he didn't talk about drove his life and

769
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:50,410
it shaped my family it shaped me you

770
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:52,510
know and I just I do wish that he would

771
00:40:58,620 --> 00:40:55,450
have been able to open up more but I

772
00:41:00,359 --> 00:40:58,630
know it just haunted him and Pearl

773
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:00,369
Harbor was a day that did definitely

774
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:05,770
haunt him it it is one of those days

775
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:08,080
that just when it's mentioned it's a day

776
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:11,920
that lives in infamy since I mean truly

777
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:14,890
from an outside army in force so this

778
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,980
was yeah pretty scary it was I mean it

779
00:41:29,370 --> 00:41:25,599
in a lot of our country to understand

780
00:41:32,250 --> 00:41:29,380
that someone can reach out and touch us

781
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:32,260
and unfortunately we we've seen that

782
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:33,040
happen again

783
00:41:43,859 --> 00:41:38,980
and again you know and

784
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:43,869
it should give us a perspective here in

785
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:44,770
the States

786
00:41:51,690 --> 00:41:49,270
to understand that you know I think

787
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:51,700
sometimes we as Americans have gotten

788
00:42:00,329 --> 00:41:54,310
the big head and we thought we were

789
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:00,339
untouchable and we can tell from from

790
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:04,089
d-day and from you know Pearl Harbor all

791
00:42:12,359 --> 00:42:09,960
those events you know even 9/11 that

792
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:12,369
American can have America can have a

793
00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:17,890
loss and sometimes we we get too

794
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:21,400
comfortable and you know I I do fear

795
00:42:29,250 --> 00:42:24,700
that you know we've gotten into a state

796
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:29,260
of you know a city comfort again where

797
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:31,390
the next attack could be around the

798
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:35,980
corner and unfortunately I think really

799
00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:41,980
now our our government is too concern

800
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:45,640
with trivial issues that were not we're

801
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:49,119
not looking and I you know at what can

802
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:52,510
attack us we're too busy fighting

803
00:42:57,450 --> 00:42:54,930
amongst ourselves for petty things

804
00:43:01,800 --> 00:42:57,460
trying to figure out who's right who's

805
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:01,810
wrong and that's usually when when we

806
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:07,210
get attacked it's true that is true you

807
00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:09,790
know it wants to be remembered as it's

808
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:12,940
remembered and yet even you wonder

809
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:15,790
sometimes it's even that possibly a

810
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:19,119
little bit of a manipulation of our

811
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:21,730
mindset because sometimes we're kind of

812
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:24,280
told what to believe but this specific

813
00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:26,920
idea I'm 100% with you know we got hit

814
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,330
do you remember a significant loss of

815
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:35,680
life that he spoke of which he witnessed

816
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:40,990
himself uh no because he mentioned when

817
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:52,440
you know by that time you know now wish

818
00:44:00,000 --> 00:43:56,020
I I knew my never I never really studied

819
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:00,010
forward to all that much just really

820
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:04,270
Pearl Harbor and not even I hadn't even

821
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,530
say that for a while but knowing that

822
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:11,440
you have you know ships that have sunk

823
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:14,110
with people aboard that were still alive

824
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:18,880
but they couldn't get them out you know

825
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:21,280
things of that he just said he he was

826
00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:23,260
able to look down and he just saw smoke

827
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:28,540
and fire and he just knew that more

828
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:30,520
likely he was going to be bringing

829
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:33,190
bodies back and said of people you know

830
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:35,740
well there's still people but he's gonna

831
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:37,630
be bringing back the dead instead of the

832
00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:44,170
it was his bling job was he would fly he

833
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:47,630
was medical a plane so his job was to

834
00:44:55,620 --> 00:44:52,160
fly in to war zones and to pick up the

835
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:55,630
wounded to pick up the dead and

836
00:45:02,380 --> 00:44:59,450
sometimes it was while well if I was

837
00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:02,390
going on he was being shot at he would

838
00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:11,260
so that that was what he was prepared

839
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:14,600
for but she just she just saw smoke and

840
00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:20,240
fire and she just knew that there was

841
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:23,030
going to be more dead than alive and you

842
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:24,410
know I don't I don't remember the

843
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:26,900
numbers and stuff but it was that would

844
00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:35,050
there are a lot of coincidences that

845
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:39,950
took place you know and you know at the

846
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:43,310
end of the day it's hardly any of the

847
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:48,580
survivors are still alive yeah one and

848
00:45:54,910 --> 00:45:52,370
it's good to note that you know think

849
00:45:58,030 --> 00:45:54,920
about think about that day you know it's

850
00:46:00,010 --> 00:45:58,040
a Sunday morning you know during that

851
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,020
time in our country where were most

852
00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:02,480
people at on Sunday mornings you know

853
00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:06,140
they were in church you know our country

854
00:46:12,730 --> 00:46:08,660
was very different back then

855
00:46:16,450 --> 00:46:12,740
you know stores you know most

856
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:16,460
restaurants all those were closed it was

857
00:46:24,730 --> 00:46:21,440
quiet so you know you do have to give it

858
00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:24,740
to the enemy you know Japan at the time

859
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:26,990
that they probably knew this they

860
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:30,560
probably knew that you know Sunday money

861
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:32,210
rolls around yeah you'll have some

862
00:46:38,290 --> 00:46:34,070
people on watch but a lot of people are

863
00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:38,300
going to church during that time and a

864
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:41,720
lot of that time especially in the

865
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:45,440
harbor churches were located within the

866
00:46:51,610 --> 00:46:49,610
ships so they would have a chapel so you

867
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:51,620
know you would have a lot of people all

868
00:46:59,800 --> 00:46:52,190
of

869
00:47:02,559 --> 00:46:59,810
area on one time and yeah yeah I mean

870
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:02,569
but I still you know looking at how the

871
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,030
harbor was set up how there was a

872
00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:07,520
traffic jam of ships inside the harbor

873
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:11,020
during that day during that weekend

874
00:47:17,950 --> 00:47:13,190
again a lot of things that shouldn't

875
00:47:21,819 --> 00:47:17,960
have happened did happen you know was it

876
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:21,829
just the perfect setup for Japan or was

877
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:28,390
there's something else working I mean

878
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:31,160
the the speculations are out there the

879
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:35,150
conspiracy are out there but it happened

880
00:47:42,339 --> 00:47:39,650
I am mesmerised by the coincidences the

881
00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:42,349
synchronicities in the odd like you said

882
00:47:46,750 --> 00:47:43,940
the things that shouldn't happen that

883
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:46,760
happened they hit us when we were most

884
00:47:53,410 --> 00:47:50,960
spiritually vulnerable made us realize

885
00:47:54,819 --> 00:47:53,420
they knew exactly what was going on in

886
00:47:58,599 --> 00:47:54,829
the mind of their enemy when they hit

887
00:48:03,880 --> 00:47:58,609
him you know on it's like getting hit by

888
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:03,890
a samurai force literally yeah yeah you

889
00:48:08,740 --> 00:48:05,569
know that the tag line that we have to

890
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:08,750
911 you know never forget that means the

891
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:11,530
attack line on a lot of things mmm-hmm

892
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:16,010
you know never never forget Pearl Harbor

893
00:48:21,099 --> 00:48:19,130
you never forget our servicemen and

894
00:48:23,530 --> 00:48:21,109
women who have served who have given

895
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:23,540
their life and those who you know in

896
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:27,890
other ways that you know serve but came

897
00:48:37,089 --> 00:48:33,440
home with PTSD those who have struggled

898
00:48:40,569 --> 00:48:37,099
I have I have cousins who you know have

899
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:40,579
been part of some of the biggest events

900
00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:44,480
in in our country in the past you know

901
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:49,460
30 40 years and it has really you know

902
00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:51,770
shaped their the way they think the way

903
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:56,390
things happen you know we should never

904
00:49:03,309 --> 00:48:58,010
forget and we should always stand behind

905
00:49:06,130 --> 00:49:03,319
our military they gave their lives you

906
00:49:09,009 --> 00:49:06,140
know and then also taking the time to

907
00:49:12,910 --> 00:49:09,019
you know pray for a government pray for

908
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:12,920
those who who are you know being the

909
00:49:17,650 --> 00:49:15,410
public service and you know and this

910
00:49:19,930 --> 00:49:17,660
might be a pretty strong statement here

911
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:19,940
but you know you've been taking the time

912
00:49:25,269 --> 00:49:21,410
to pray for those that you don't

913
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:25,279
necessarily agree with but there's I

914
00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:27,170
believe there is something wrong with

915
00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:29,630
assuming everything that you're told is

916
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:32,630
true do not believe this would not be

917
00:49:40,089 --> 00:49:36,049
the last time we will be attacked on our

918
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:40,099
homeland it just comes from if it's

919
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:41,660
gonna be from an outside source or an

920
00:49:49,059 --> 00:49:45,890
inside Pearl Harbor is a day that will

921
00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:49,069
live in infamy but thanks so much for

922
00:49:54,099 --> 00:49:52,220
taking the time out of your day and well

923
00:49:56,049 --> 00:49:54,109
just being so knowledgeable about

924
00:50:00,519 --> 00:49:56,059
everything we're talking about

925
00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:00,529
and we'll what can you tell our guests

926
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:03,230
how can they stay in touch with you if

927
00:50:09,509 --> 00:50:05,150
they have something to tell you or

928
00:50:12,910 --> 00:50:09,519
anything in between you can always go to

929
00:50:15,249 --> 00:50:12,920
the hero paranormal site you can always

930
00:50:17,529 --> 00:50:15,259
contact me through you know through you

931
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:17,539
as well huh if somebody wants to talk to

932
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:21,200
me feel free if you look hard enough you

933
00:50:27,220 --> 00:50:23,119
can find me okay I'll put it like that

934
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:27,230
well thanks so much man it's a pleasure

935
00:50:31,089 --> 00:50:28,730
to speak with you finally at length

936
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:31,099
about this and it's so fascinating and I

937
00:50:37,769 --> 00:50:33,049
appreciate you coming on and talking

938
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:37,779
about it oh it was a pleasure and uh I

939
00:50:53,230 --> 00:50:49,120
delivering the goods mr. Will Hoffman

940
00:50:55,060 --> 00:50:53,240
right from Missouri and appreciate

941
00:50:56,859 --> 00:50:55,070
everybody listening in tonight will is a

942
00:50:58,210 --> 00:50:56,869
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00:51:00,609 --> 00:50:58,220
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952
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953
00:51:30,849 --> 00:51:27,369
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954
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,859
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955
00:52:03,460 --> 00:51:33,680
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956
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